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memnoch
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:41 pm Reply with quote
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You know those bass booms you hear every so often (about every 3 seconds in any XXXX-core band)? Anyone know how to program that with software of any kind? I've seen drummers use pads at shows to create the boom (namely Ion Dissonance), but I'm wondering if there's an alternative when recording in the studio.

Oh yeah and fuck tormentinfire. Razz

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i dunno... try google :p

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tormentinfire
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:49 pm Reply with quote
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Haha fuck me why? I know the answer bitch. Now you can go fuck yourself.

OK, maybe not.

When drummers hit those pads live they're probably just triggering a sample so you can easily do it in the studio.

A ghetto, easy way to do it is just pitch a tom or kick really low and eq it to taste, like lowpass filtering it to take out the clicky attack that's mostly hi frequencies.

If you have a synth or soundforge you could generate it using a sine wave wth a quick drop in pitch at the start. All a bass drum really is is a sine wave that's has a rapid change in pitch at the start of the wave. So you'd get soundforge or your synth to produce a sine wave at 60hz or lower, and then play with different ways of pitching it. EQ and comp to taste as usual.

A kick or tom are also basically sine waves with a rapid change of pitch so you can see how the ghetto method works, but you lose control of the sound.

If you have soundforge I can give you the steps to get the basic boom sound then you'd have to play around. It's also possible with a vst synth but soundforge is more ideal imo.
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Jismy
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:07 am Reply with quote
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tormentinfire wrote:
When drummers hit those pads live they're probably just triggering a sample so you can easily do it in the studio.
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this.


also, it's pretty much impossible not to get any overtones when hitting something, so it's not really a single sine wave when you hit a drum.

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tormentinfire
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:43 am Reply with quote
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You're right, I was talking about a dance kick drum...which would be perfect for a bass boom since you don't want those overtones and have to eq them out if you're pitching down a tom or kick. If you were making it in Soundforge/a synth you'd only need a single sine. I didn't want to go into a huge tangent about it since it wasn't necessary.
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ogdeathgrind
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:49 pm Reply with quote
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dude it's called an 808 sub drop/kick...named after one of the first roland TR808 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_TR-808

the deathcore/metalcore drummers typically use a trigger modules with a pad at the start of a breakdown or during.

get these:

http://www.ashesofthefallen.net/TR808WAV.rar

http://rs10.rapidshare.com/files/17490940/Various_subkicks__7_total_.zip

you'll probably like the "EURO TECHNO bPROMO 03" best, it's in the various subkicks zip.
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GOATVOMIT
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:04 pm Reply with quote
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memnoch wrote:
You know those bass booms you hear every so often (about every 3 seconds in any XXXX-core band)? Anyone know how to program that with software of any kind? I've seen drummers use pads at shows to create the boom (namely Ion Dissonance), but I'm wondering if there's an alternative when recording in the studio.

Oh yeah and fuck tormentinfire. Razz



I could mix the one I used down and send you the sample if you like. PM me if you want it.

It can be heard on my myspace page on the song relative perspective
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memnoch
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:39 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks all y'all for the advice. I don't know what the hell Soundforge is, I'm just recently getting into the audio/recording stuff so I'm uber-rookie at it all. I'm not ready to record anything just yet, but I just wanted a heads up on how to do this sorta thing. I'll give it a few tries and see what works best.

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scotty
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:48 am Reply with quote
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if i understand your question correctly, try reading up on tone bursts...that's what you might want. i don't know anything about implementing them...just what they're called.

you could also trying messing around with a deep tom or bass drum sound...making it feel huge and putting it low in a mix to add just that little 'oomph' in the background.

i just recently recorded with alaskan and i used my floor tom 16x16 tom to get the job done.

disregard this if i'm completely off track!
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kamanda
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 7:06 pm Reply with quote
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ogdeathgrind wrote:


the deathcore/metalcore drummers typically use a trigger modules with a pad at the start of a breakdown or during.


Or just a bass slide...

As for OP, just look up techno/dance/bass samples. I'm sure you can find em pretty easy

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deathrow six
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:10 pm Reply with quote
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memnoch wrote:
You know those bass booms you hear every so often (about every 3 seconds in any XXXX-core band)? Anyone know how to program that with software of any kind? I've seen drummers use pads at shows to create the boom (namely Ion Dissonance), but I'm wondering if there's an alternative when recording in the studio.

Oh yeah and fuck tormentinfire. Razz


Tried it with the electronic drum in my 18"...Baaaa...Ya the " BBBooMMM" sound's sweet but my advice is leave it as it is man.

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deathrow six
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:17 pm Reply with quote
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ogdeathgrind wrote:
dude it's called an 808 sub drop/kick...named after one of the first roland TR808 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_TR-808

the deathcore/metalcore drummers typically use a trigger modules with a pad at the start of a breakdown or during.

get these:

http://www.ashesofthefallen.net/TR808WAV.rar

http://rs10.rapidshare.com/files/17490940/Various_subkicks__7_total_.zip

you'll probably like the "EURO TECHNO bPROMO 03" best, it's in the various subkicks zip.


Listend to all...not in there. Like I said, drop it off is my advice.That BBooMM sound is they're own.
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ogdeathgrind
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:18 am Reply with quote
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yeah it is.
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